Search titles only. CTE is a pre-shot routine that involves the use of the line from the center of the cue ball through the outside edge of the object ball (from the intended pocket. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. He ran with Jimmy Moore, I think. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. That's one reason I can't stand the really shitty comments denigrating them and their students. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. 1434. Search titles only. If there were 10. A. Instruction & Ask the pros. In 2002 I got a phone call from Bob Johnson, one of my Denver, Colorado pool buddies. I know Hal Houle there are only 3 or 4 shots in pool. All of Hal's systems used the 3 line fractions. My schedule for lessons is resuming as usual and all courses will reflect the newly redefined CTE/PRO ONE Aiming System. Includes; pocketing, caroms, single rail banks, double rail banks, 2, 3, and 4 rail banks, and double. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. ) A: I studied aiming systems under Hal Houle, who invented many aiming system variants. So the non-users consider that false advertisement. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. . By: Search Advanced search…I'm grateful for you Stan and for Hal houle. I have shown Hal Houle's quarters system to APA 3s and 4s and watched them start making shots way above their skill level. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. I don't understand half of Spidey's post but I compeletly understand what he means. How it's advertised is as an objective aiming system with zero feel or subconscious involvement. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. I have played around with CTE for ~ 2 years. Was great to hear his stories. A. His credentials are very impressive, with Pro player being one of his accomplishments. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. I've kept the thread alive as there is a discussion below on the book) Amazon published my book on Ralph Greenleaf,. I would telephone every few months checking in with him or he would call me and we would talk. If anyone would like to see the Contact and Pivot aiming or any of the Hal Houle systems that I know,(small ball, 3 lines, points of light, stick aiming, etc. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. I use it more in practice and do not focus on the pivot when I play. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. By: Search Advanced search…Secret Aiming Systems ™ Coach (THE designated successor to Hal Houle, inventor of many of the Aiming Systems) Professor: Billiard University; Certified PAT ™ Examiner (the Playing Ability Test) Founder: Elephant Balls, Ltd. . Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. But how to do that when we're at home or work doing less important things? Just fire up Virtual Pool 3 on your desktop, aim any shot, then turn the. It's reduced so much that it literally becomes point and shoot with no. sacman AzB Silver Member. Stan Shuffett refined it and it is called "CTE Pro One". . Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. 5 + 2. According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. I decided last winter to turn myself into an Open caliber. 4. Hal Houle . I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. S. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. Adored wife of the late Harold "Hal" Houle. It's just a fact of life that no matter what you do there are people who find issue with it. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. and let's go to press. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small group for 25 years on multiple pool forums but have found a home on this forum since 2003. Aiming ConversationI will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. JoeyInCali Maker of. I've met Hal a few times. . The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. Much to what I assume will be the chagrin of the vocal CTE guys, Hal Houle himself said this in his infamous original 3-angle document. A. I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. Spent 9:30 to 4:30 at Stan's place yesterday. Cherished mother of David Morse, Kathleen (Mike) Morse, the late Sam Morse, the late Dean Morse, and the late Glen Morse. Yes. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. Search titles only. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. Silver Member. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. :grin-square: Perhaps the video will be large enough to honor Hal Houle for what he created. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. . I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. Hal was a veteran of the U. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. By: Search Advanced search…Specifically in regards to CTE? We've gone from it can't work to it can't work as advertised. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. . Jul 25, 2005. Thankfully, Hal sent a private email. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. RecSportBilliards in 1996. M is aiming by the numbers. pj chgo . that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. i teach professional aiming systems. . These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. This is also the explanation why balls can "bend" or find. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. . Call Hal Houle, and he can enlighten you Basically, the last light, or the end of the light falls at the cueball point that is at the center of many of Hal's systems. And he's had an internet woody on ever since trying to discredit anyone that teaches or promotes any aiming system that is based off of Hal's. Hey everyone! After receiving numerous request to do a video on the Center-To-Edge (CTE) aiming system, I studied it for about week. . By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. Let me know which one was your favorite in the comments! I’m really looking forward to making more micro two piece hauls with my friends so if you liked this one make sure to let me know :) My favorite Bikini from this haul was the last one! Check out Dare and Codee!That was Hal Houle's claim - but it actually takes about 50 different cut angles just to make a spot shot into a 4. And I heard. Was great to hear his stories. Stan Shuffett, a pool player and instructor from Kentucky, took deep interest in CTE and refined it to his own system known as CTE Pro/One. By: Search Advanced search…Hal Houle may've been the first to use the word "visual" as a noun relating to pool shots, just as he or Stan was probably the first to use the words "visual perception" in relation to visualizing pool shots. . I then listened to them for several more hours while on my route as a mailman today so I could really let it sink into my subconscious. A. Examples include Hal Houle’s 3angle system- , CTE, and SAM. Eventually, I became his successor. . The one thing that stuck out to me was how long (in seconds) the very good players stayed at the set position before pulling the cue back to shoot. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. 5 = 4. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. Army and was stationed in GermanIt is a given that the tip can be used as a device to point the cue to certain recognizable spots on the OB. If anyone knows what it is supposed to be, then I. My question is greenleaf won all his championships on a five by ten and mosconis. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. and I get all da rolls. Hal Houle figured it out over 70 years ago. . M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. 11, I show that these aims are equivalent to 3/4-, 1/2-, and 1/4-ball-hits and the 15- and 45° angles are not exact. . I keep reading the term 'feel' player - a feel player is simply a player who started with an aiming system and used it long enough. Yes, there are AIM points, but they are clearly visible on the OB and not imaginary. Hal Houle knew Greenleaf and probably Fez. The idea behind the slip stroke is minimizing the length that your cue moves on the back stroke. I think Hal was largely correct in that assessment. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. I don't care if I change your mind. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. For 13 years I have been on a mission to solve Center to Edge and I have accomplished what I set out to do. . he was beat to death, hung out to dry, and CRITIZED by all the nay sayers, who could not understand what he could. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. Silver Member. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. Both of these men have spent a lot of time figuring out alternative ways to line up to the shot. Search titles only. Army and was stationed in Germany during the Korean Conflict. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. Hal Houle was a very unique individual! Hal was intelligent, had a great wit and lived a long, varied and interesting life. . There is no one on the planet who does not use an aiming system - all pool players started out using a system. Search titles only. ) For this column I've also spoken to BCA instructor Tom Simpson, who graciously put me in contact with Houle. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. Sport. 5 = 4. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:Some (mostly undercooked) food for thought about aiming system benefits for everybody. I am proficient at ghost ball and contact points, I just was looking into a system to double check my aim if I am uncertain. May 1, 2023 #254 Dan White said: I think CTE discussion is more interesting that what color chalk do you use or which cue maker screwed somebody over this week, lol. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. But in my opinion if it wasn't for Hal there wouldn't be CTE. Dec 25, 2014 #7 there is no way to calculate such a thing. Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. ”. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Whenever someone asks me how long I’ve been playing, I always say, "Since I met Hal. In fact, a "visual" as you describe (or as Hal described) in pool is not. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. Hal Houle changed my life. Landon Shuffett vs Earl Strickland in the Diamond 10-Ball 10 Foo…The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions. Anybody know when that will be?I believe it's correct to say you don't have to "consciously" know where the pocket is, but unconsciously you do. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. By: Search Advanced search…Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away (in RSB, an internet pool newsgroup before AZ came along) he labeled Hal Houle a heretic for preaching this mystical and magical system called CTE. Started playing in 1934. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. By: Search Advanced search…We all need to practice our aiming as much as possible - that's how we get good at it. Hey everyone, New guy here. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:I will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. as was Hal's in "defining" "backhand english" as a method to return to center ball. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. . Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. He contacted many people simply to give them a tip on aiming, the stroke, or other subjects. . not so good, sorry. . Hugo Houle: Born 27 September 1990 (age 33) Sainte-Perpétue, Canada: Height: 1. Jul 21, 2008. . . If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. It was posted here about 6. So much easier it's mind numbing. Sep 18, 2021 #53Stevie Moore - ProOne - derived from Hal Houle's systems as taught by Stan Shuffett Darren Appleton - Something similar to the S. Cherished mother of. This quote came from R. By: Search Advanced search…Colin Colenso, I'm reposting these pictures from the "mathematical aiming system" thread you created, because they are incredibly relevant to resolving the pivot system arguments. He welcomes inquiries and does not charge for his advice. 5 years ago. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. . Search titles only. If there were 10. SHISHKABOB is similar to CTE in that there are 3 spots to aim at like CTE. Several thousand players have been trained and over 200 new instructors produced since 1995 through the National Billiard Academy. . My name is Hal Houle. go! the ones i seen confused me, im making big leaps in my pool game this yr, so why not take it further if i can and actually learn something lolSearch titles only. . According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. He started all of his destruction of aiming systems, Hal Houle, CTE, etc. By: Search Advanced search…However, Hal Houle (there's that name again) also created a STICK AIMING SYSTEM that had nothing to do with CENTERS and EDGES. knows that I'm a proponent of Hal Houle. . Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. FYI, I just updated my online glossary of pool and billiards terms and phrases. . I believe Fez, Jimmy, and Ralph Greenleaf, were partners. . So if you simply looked at a shot as a 3/4 cover which I think is about 15 degrees then you could adjust a little to the right or left and see if you are on. hal houle. A. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. gentlemen - upside down glasses are the NUTS. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. What's this fixation with aiming? It's a personal thing. competent and has provided cueing instruction to all levels of. First he told me to forget everything I knew about shooting pool. Tom simpson will be glad to teach it to you for a fee. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. However Hal Houle is AWESOME and so is Ron Vitello. Most are good honest requests to learn. . i teach professional aiming systems. Anyways, CTE had been a point of discussion on RSB and Hal calls me one afternoon and starts off with, "Lou, this is Hal Houle. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. Began instructing pool in 1945. Back in Greenville SC for a few weeks and I am offering one on one lessons in my shop at my home on a 4 1/2 by 9 Diamond Pool table with 4 3/8 pockets and. From what I know of the Hal Houle point and pivot system, it has to do with actually pivoting the cue itself slightly. By: Search Advanced search…HEY GUYS MY 2 CENTS the CTE devotees we know who you are EVERYONE ELSE. Basic aiming systems “aiming” FAQ page on my website. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. He never charged for lessons, often given over the phone. Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. . . . Hal Houle I totally agree. Takes his three angles and makes aiming easier to teach. . . Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. Pool lost a pioneer. Q. I'm told that Hal Houle recognises this and recommends the adjustment method diagrammed and described below. I've met Hal a few times. Or match what is on the. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. ALL of which had a pivot including CTE. S. Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. Search titles only. This is just what I've heard. As far as systems go, its as good as any, and an excellent place to start. Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. ". That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. I lived in Greeley, about an hour away from Denver at the time. He was always experimenting with aiming systems and knowledge he acquired over the years from. . Gulfport, Mississippi. When I first learned of Hal Houle, I immediately sought him out because I heard he was a very knowledgeable man. Directly quoting Mr. . Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. #2. Hal called it his three angle document. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. Align the the cue about 1/2 tip off center from the cue ball. This is Low500 at N. we know that you and Hal were close. . Hal Houle's Aiming Cyrus Jackson 6 videos 165 views Last updated on Jan 28, 2022 Play all Shuffle 1 2:02 1 Position, 10 Shots Sean Higgins • 5. Note: I'm not saying that Hal came up with the light theory. . First he told me to forget. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. Just reading the 1st chapter brings back so many memories of my teachings with Hal. M is not exclusive but normally taught by SPF Instructors. . In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. Dave has CTE on his web-site, also Hal Houle's 3-angle system. It was very obvious to me how Jimmy was making balls. . There's only the center of the OB, the 1/4 or 3/4, and the edge. . In TP A. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. . A lot of my terminology might be a little outdated but once you lock in your visuals, what is the precise order of. I hope it does not relate to fraction aiming because I don't feel comfortable with that. . The Sailor's aiming system, which I detail in my book, is to me the only accurate way to aim at a pool ball. I have been using it for a few years with very good results. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. . you have nothing to lose. add another ball that can be used with. To Dave Segal for being so vocal about what. S. As most of you know, Hal was known for being devious in explaining CTE and that created a lot of misunderstanding about it. What the old gent said to me is pretty much what Terry is saying in his video. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. ) I will be more than happy. Hal Houle. Using your attacks to further the reach of CTE is merely a way to turn your evil. The 15 - 30 - and 45. hal houle. I am being swamped by email and PMs about Hal Houle's aiming system. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. Recognizing those. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. Now according what Hal Houle taught me and my friends is There is an Edges to use for cut shot and cut. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. The one we've heard about here is the. He retired from Ottawa Hills Memorial Park after over 20 years as an "Underground Condominium Salesman. Anybody know?dunno if the user named "halhoule" is the real thing, but he seems to be spamming this 'efren reyes aiming system' stuff + a phone number to people. . No personal. Once he showed me which bulb and where on the object ball, it magically went in the hole. A key factor in CTE is that the shooter learns to largely disengage his conscious mind from the aiming process. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system. ”. After much consideration, I have made a business decision to indefinitely postpone the creation of a CTE/PRO ONE video. I also reviewed newspaper clippings from The New York Times, and I've drawn a. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. . "Your" system exists because of the efforts of Hal Houle to bring the concept of ball to ball objective aiming systems into mainstream pool instruction.